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Offline Tim

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« on: May 29, 2003, 03:35:00 pm »
I get a lot of email through this site and I'm passing this along to help the bulb collecting community gain some more exposure.  Canadian collectors/historians please rise!

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Hello-
I am working on a Television show called the secret science
of Everyday things. We are looking for a knowledgeable lightbulb
collector in Canada who could speak about the development
of the incandescent bulb and show us examples of early lightbulbs.
Can you suggest anybody who might be qualified?
Thanks for your help,
Stacey Tenenbaum
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2003, 10:25:00 am »
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Originally posted by tim:
I get a lot of email through this site and I'm passing this along to help the bulb collecting community gain some more exposure.  Canadian collectors/historians please rise!

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Hello-
I am working on a Television show called the secret science
of Everyday things. We are looking for a knowledgeable lightbulb
collector in Canada who could speak about the development
of the incandescent bulb and show us examples of early lightbulbs.
Can you suggest anybody who might be qualified?
Thanks for your help,
Stacey Tenenbaum
Researcher, Secret Science
Pixcom
1720 Rue du Canal
Montreal, Quebec
H3K 3E6
CANADA
tel.  514-931-1188 x356
fax. 514-931-2126
stenenbaum (at) pixcom (dot) com




Hello fellow collectors. There does not seem to be a lot of bulb colectors in Canada.
 I have been collecting for40 years. But never got seroius until I found Ebay in 1995. And then I found Kilokats I was in My glory.
I have about 200 now, and don't know any more than Tim or some of you other collectors, but I love to display them.
 I would like to pass this along about doctor Hugh Hicks collection.
 Last night 0n C.B.C. Radio the Baltimore Museum of Industry was interviewed by Paul at C.B.C Radio. They mentioned a 75,000 watt that comerated the 75th anniversy of G.E. IT was never lit and if it was it had to be done in stages. They also have a 50,000 Watt.   Best regards Poppa Bill bulbs


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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2003, 11:29:00 pm »
Originally posted by Poppa Bill bulbs:
Last night 0n C.B.C. Radio the Baltimore Museum of Industry was interviewed by Paul at C.B.C Radio. They mentioned a 75,000 watt that comerated the 75th anniversy of G.E. IT was never lit and if it was it had to be done in stages. They also have a 50,000 Watt.

Poppa Bill,
Thanks for that update. I was looking for a reference to the 50kW light bulb recently, and found the obituary on Dr. Hugh Hicks.

I saw the 50kW (or is there more than one?) at the Henry Ford Museum in about 1981.

I could not find a reference to it or to the 75kW bulb, so shelved my research for the moment. A pix of either would be great!

Anyone else know about these monster incadecents?

Note to Tim, how do I change the thread title, when posting as a follow up or reply? I'd prefer to reflect that wehave gone off the original thread?

Thanks In Advance!



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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2003, 12:47:00 am »
Hi Peter,

I don?t know of any way for a user to change the thread topic name/title ? I don?t think it?s possible with this forum software.  Regarding the monster bulbs, I believe both the 50kw & 75kw bulbs were made in very low numbers by Corning Glass to commemorate Edison?s 50th (50,000 watts) and 75th (75,000 watts) anniversaries of the first successful incandescent lamp.  Here?s a picture I took recently of two which inhabit the museum located on the premises of the Edison/Ford Winter Estates in Fort Myers, FL.  The 75,000 watter is on the left and the 50,000 watter is on the right:
 

So it would appear there are a few of these big lamps around but it is unlikely the average collector would have a shot at obtaining one.  Snagging a huge 10,000 watter would be more realistic and they also make impressive additions to a bulb collection!


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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2003, 02:53:00 am »
Hi fellows; try The {Baltimore Museum of industry].And go to Press, That's as far as I searched.  Best regards;poppa Bill bulbs.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2003, 09:42:00 am »
I have an Spanish book on Electricity that pictures one of these monsters. A such bulb are quoted as "Japan made", 50KW rated and looks like 75 kilowatts on the left of Tim's picture.
Such photograph are underlined (in Spanish) as follows:
"Enorme l?mpara japonesa de incandescencia  de 50Kw"
that once translated means:
"Enormous Japanese 50Kw incandescent lamp" and behind it appears a smiling japanese woman holding it on her arms. Really are a big bulb!

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2003, 12:17:00 pm »
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Hi Peter,

I don?t know of any way for a user to change the thread topic name/title ? I don?t think it?s possible with this forum software.

Pity. I'm active on a Yahoo group which goes off topic regularly (I'm sure I'm not the only guilty one....) Months later it's quite a chore to find old messages again. Can you ask this software's publisher to comment?

Regarding the monster bulbs, I believe both the 50kw & 75kw bulbs were made in very low numbers by Corning Glass to commemorate Edison?s 50th (50,000 watts) and 75th (75,000 watts) anniversaries of the first successful incandescent lamp.

Ahh... Yes! After twenty years I thought I was imagining these! I saw them in the Henry Ford Museum in Fairlane/Dearborn (Nr. Detroit) Michigan, around 1981. Since then I had no success in find any reference to them again.

Here?s a picture I took recently of two which inhabit the museum located on the premises of the Edison/Ford Winter Estates in Fort Myers, FL.

Hmm. Any clue as to whether these are the bulbs from Michigan? Where should I go to see them again? (Sounds like Florida). I know nothing about Fort Meyers, does it compete with the Henry Ford Museum for Edison artefacts?

The 75,000 watter is on the left and the 50,000 watter is on the right:

From memory (again) I recall that one of these bulbs used four pounds of tungsten, and the info card in the museum noted that amount would make (big number forgotten) 60W type A bulbs. Seems like many thousands of bulbs.

So it would appear there are a few of these big lamps around but it is unlikely the average collector would have a shot at obtaining one.  Snagging a huge 10,000 watter would be more realistic and they also make impressive additions to a bulb collection!

Oh, yeah? 10kW. Was this a novelty lamp (the tenth year anniversary, perhaps?), or does it have a serious application? Any PIX or URLs to see one?

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2003, 03:50:00 pm »
Hi Peter,

Here?s a picture of a GE Mazda 10kw lamp I picked up a few months ago:
 http://www.bulbcollector.com/photos/10kw.jpg

This is an early design, made before the mogul bi-pin base came into use.  The original crate that came with this bulb has a Nela Park label dated 1928.  These large bulbs had legitimate uses in the film and stage industry and where high light output was needed ? search lights too perhaps.  They were made for many decades in the larger G96 envelope with standard mogul bi-pin bases but even these seem to be a challenge to find now.  I?m sure they were low production runs because of the specialized need and application for them.  They do surface on eBay every now and then but prices are usually ridiculously high?


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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2003, 04:57:00 pm »
As of this instant, there is a 10,000w Mazda lightbulb currently up for auction on eBay. The current bid is $73 and it has 5 hours left.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3229294007&category=1405


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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2003, 12:23:00 pm »
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As of this instant, there is a 10,000w Mazda lightbulb currently up for auction on eBay. The current bid is $73 and it has 5 hours left.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3229294007&category=1405


Yoshi,

Missed it! Well at least I know what to look for in the future. As A.J. Franzman pointed out, the granules in the bulb assist in cleaning to deposits from inside the glass.

I have a 1500W bi-pin base (I'm confused if this is a MOGUL base - a name I thought only went with the larger Edison Screw base), with granules inside - which I mistakenly thought were shed from the filament!

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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2003, 12:33:00 pm »
Hi Peter,

There are two versions of the bi-post type base that I'm aware of. ?I refer to them as "medium" and "mogul" although this may not be industry terms for them - can anyone verify? ?Here's a picture of a "medium" bi-post lamp:
http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=432.0

The pins are smaller in diameter than the larger "mogul" size...



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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2003, 10:15:00 pm »
Tim,

I believe that the size you are calling "medium" is actually called "mogul bi-post".  I seem to recall seeing sockets for this type of bulb base while doing web searches to help Peter find his mogul screw-base sockets.  Apparently there is still some demand for these (mogul bi-post) sockets in the motion picture, theatrical and live entertainment industries.

See the bottom of this page:  http://www.altmanltg.com/prod_distributionequipment.htm
Note the proximity of the mogul bi-post (MOBP) and mogul screw base (MOSB) sockets in the image, which allows scale to be judged fairly easily.  Notice also that there is a medium bi-post (MBP) socket in the same image, which appears tiny by comparison - definitely not what you were referring to as "medium".

What that leaves for a designation of 10+KW size bi-post bases or sockets, I haven't any idea!

P.S. There's an engineering drawing of the mogul bi-post socket at  http://www.buhl-ind.com/pdfs/Be%20Pdf/be-qcg-38.pdf  but unfortunately dimensions of the holes and spacing between them are not given!  Assuming that the drawing is accurately scaled, the center-to-center post spacing appears to be 1.5 inches.

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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2003, 12:36:00 am »
I saw the 50kW (or is there more than one?) at the Henry Ford Museum in about 1981.

The Thomas Edison Depot Museum in Port Huron, Michigan also has a 50,000 watter. This is the train station that Edison went to when he was a young boy. The depot sets next to the Blue Water Bridges that goes to Canada. The museum opened in 2001 and a nice place to visit with it located on the St. Clair River.
 http://www.phmuseum.org/depot/depot.htm

Here is a picture of the bulb in the depot.

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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2003, 09:20:00 pm »
Hi everyone
First of all, welcome all the new members. Its really great to know how many people are interested in collecting light bulbs.
Next I hope I can shed some light on mogul bipost and medium bipost bases. We use both in our TV studio lighting. The mogul bipost have 7/16th diamature pins on 1 1/2 centers and are 1000 watts and higher. The madium bipost have 1/4 inch post on 7/8th inch centers and run from 500 to 750 watts. These no longer have the large glass bulbs but use the smaller quartz halogin bulbs on these bases.These bases are listed in the catalogs this way.

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2003, 10:54:00 pm »
Hi! Here's another 10,000w bulb listed at the moment on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3231004103&category=371


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